Software General FAQ

1. What is the difference between the Hard Drive Upgrader and the Clone-n-Recover?

2. Can I take the IDE hard drive out of an Apple Mac and clone it to a new drive on a PC?

3. In the case of cloning two same sized SCSI drives, what device should be the source and what should be the target. Should the boot device be the target?

4. I am not sure which of your products I want to order and need some input.

5. I need some input about your licensing arrangement.

6. I cloned a SCSI Novell 4.1 hard drive. The cloned SCSI copy boots but the SYS volume does not load. Any ideas?

7. Should I choose Clone-n-Recover or Hard Drive Upgrader for copying drives to recover lost data? Sometimes this drive is not DOS/Win readable...

8. Do you have a bundle with both Hard Drive Upgrader and Clone-n-Recover?

9. How do I order your software? Can I pay with credit card? Can you send the 'full-version' per e-mail?

10. What is the data transfer rate for cloning a FAT16/32 SCSI/IDE drive. We have a 4GB drive with about 500MB of data on it. Could you estimate the total time to clone the drive?

11. I bought your converter 2.5 to 3.5 for upgrading my notebook system, which side of the plugs should be aligned with the red stripe on the IDE ribbon cable?

12. I have 2 Thinkpads and an IBM Aptiva Desktop. I want to back them up so that I can "Completely" recover data, applications and operating system in the event of a crash (i.e. the hard drive is OK but system is creamed). What product do I order and to what media do I backup?   Also in the event that I might have a bad hard drive can I use the backup to recover to a larger hard drive?

13. My source computer is a 120 Pent, target computer is a 100 Pent. Both with 16 Mb Ram. Hard drives are slightly different in size. The source hard drive contains PC Dos and Windows 3.1. Do you think your Upgrade product or your Clone and Recover would be the best?

14.Does your software hard drive Upgrader/Clone-n-Recover works with USB/IDE external drive products?

15. Does your software copy Linux system data?

16. I bought your Upgrader version 3.10 and don't know how to upgrade to a new HD, can you give me some instructions?


1Q: What is the difference between the Hard Drive Upgrader and the Clone-n-Recover?

A: The clone product is mainly for backup purpose. It duplicates the drive exactly (byte by byte, sector by sector, or an mirror image) without expanding any partition. Any extra space on the new drive will be left unused. It works on all PC-based or non-PC-based partition types. For certain hard drive usage (embedded, proprietary, certain boot management software, etc), this may be the only way to copy the disk.

On the other hand, the Upgrader is mostly used for one-time PC-based hard drive upgrade by utilizing the full space of the new drive. It will expand FAT16/32 type partitions but copy non-FAT partitions as is without expansion. It also allows FAT16 to FAT32 conversion. For FAT type partitions, it only copies those sectors that are actually used and is much faster than the clone product in most cases. It still can be used as a backup, especially for Microsoft/PC-based OS without separate diagnostic/boot management partition.

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2Q: Can I take the IDE hard drive out of an Apple Mac and clone it to a new drive on a PC? What I was thinking about doing was taking the IDE Hard Drive out of the Mac placing it in the PC as the master. I realize the PC wouldn't boot on it. I could boot from a floppy though as long as the program was there. Put the new drive in set it up as a slave to do the cloning. I have Disk Pro but I don't know if it would do it for me.

A: If you have the DiskPro Clone-n-Recover software, you should be able to do the cloning this way. There is no guarantee that the new drive will boot though when you put it back to the Mac especially when the new drive is not identical to the old.

If you have Hard Drive Upgrader software, you may not be able to copy the drive at all since it may not recognize how Mac formats the hard drive.

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3Q: In the case of cloning two 1.2 gig SCSI drives, what device should be the source and what should be the target. Should the boot device be the target?

A: DiskPro can copy either way. You can specify which to be the source and which to be the target. In most cases, you want to set up your new drive to be the target as the boot device, if that is what you want eventually. Setting the new drive as the boot device allows you to check compatibility between the hard drive and the system.

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4Q: I am not sure which of your products I want to order and need some input. We are system integrators and have need for a product that will copy a complete hard drive to a second hard drive, generally when upgrades are done. Typically, the old drive is in the system as drive C: and the new drive is D:.

A: When you say "copy a complete hard drive to a second hard drive," do you intend the 2nd hard drive to be used as a backup in case there is problem upgrading the old drive? Or do you intend the 2nd hard drive to be upgraded and used as a new drive C:? If you answer yes to the first question, the Clone-n-Recover product should be the choice. If you say yes to the second question, the Hard Drive Upgrader should be the choice. See the purchase guide for more details.

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5Q: I need some input about your licensing arrangement. We are system integrators and need to copy one drive at a time, but the software will be used as a utility. In other words, it will be used on different machines for our clients at different times. What do we need?

A: We have both the DiskPro Clone-n-Recover (Product # SFDPCR) and Hard Drive Upgrader (SFUPG or SFUPG_E) listed on our order form, but their licence is intended for personal use and not for commercial purpose. We also offer Hard Drive Upgrader Deluxe (SFUPG_DLX) which combines both the Clone-n-Recover and the Upgrader in one package with other utilities. It offers unlimited PC site license for commercial use. 

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6Q: I cloned a SCSI Novell 4.1 hard drive. The cloned SCSI copy boots but the SYS volume does not load. Any ideas? The NLMs load and if I do a fdisk on the Dos partition, it show the 10% Dos partition with the 90% non-dos partition.

A: Did you receive a message like "Volume SYS could NOT be mounted, some or all volume segments cannot be located"?

You can "load install.nlm" at the Novell prompt to check the partition information.
You can also select DiskPro menu option 8 or 28 to list the partition info.
Compare both partition info.

Several possible causes are listed below:
1. Novell disk driver may not be compatible with the new drive.
2. Hard drive LBA translation may be incorrect.
-> Set up BIOS to recognize correct hard drive translation
-> Run DiskPro option 24 to change CHS translation
3. New hard drive incompatibility with the SCSI adapter:
-> change daisy-chain sequence
-> adjust SCSI termination properly
-> etc.

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7Q: Should I choose Clone-n-Recover or Hard Drive Upgrader for copying drives to recover lost data? Sometimes this drive is not DOS/Win readable...

A: In this case the Clone-n-Recover is preferred.

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8Q: Do you have a bundle with both Hard Drive Upgrader and Clone-n-Recover?

A: Yes, Either Hard Drive Upgrader Professional or Deluxe is a bundle of both Upgrader and Clone-n-Recover. Professional Version comes with one PC site license, but unlimited commercial use. Deluxe Version comes with multiple PC and multiple user, commercial use is OK.( see our purchase guide and license for more details). When running the software, from the main manu, choose option 1 and 2 to play the function of Upgrader, choose 11 or 12 to play the function of Clone-n-Recover.


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9Q: How do I order your software? Can I pay with credit card? Can you send the 'full-version' per e-mail?

A: You can order directly from our web site.   Yes, you can pay with credit card. Sure, there is no problem that we send the "full-version" via E-mail. Just check "Delivery over email" in the shipping method.

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10Q: What is the data transfer rate for cloning a FAT16/32 SCSI/IDE drive. We have a 4GB drive   with about 500MB of data on it. Could you estimate the total time to clone the drive?

A: If you use Clone-n-Recover to clone the drive, it will duplicate the whole drive whether there is data on it or not. In general, the average transfer rate is about 60MB to 120MB per minute, depending on the hardware configuration and hard drive speed. So to clone a 4GB drive, it takes about 30 to 60 minutes. If you use Hard Drive Upgrader to copy a FAT16/32 drive, it will only copy the actual data on it. The average data transfer rate is somewhat lower than Clone-n-Recover due to additional overhead involved in finding where the data is located. It tends to be faster than Clone-n-Recover if the data is not very full. In this case, it takes about 5 to 15 minutes to copy 500MB of data.    

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11Q: I bought your converter 2.5 to 3.5 for upgrading my notebook system, which side of the plugs should be aligned with the red stripe on the IDE ribbon cable?

A:  The side FURTHER AWAY from the power connector should be aligned with the red stripe (pin 1) on the IDE ribbon cable. Note that after you connect the plug to the 2.5" hard drive, if you place the combination on a flat level surface, the drive should sit level and not on an angle. If you face the plug, pin 1 should be on your right hand side, while the power connector should be on your left-hand side.

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12Q:I have 2 Thinkpads and an IBM Aptiva Desktop. I want to back them up so that I can "Completely" recover data, applications and operating system in the event of a crash (i.e. the hard drive is OK but system is creamed). What product do I order and to what media do I backup?   Also in the event that I might have a bad hard drive can I use the backup to recover to a larger hard drive?

A: Our software uses a second hard drive as the target media. It's a clone of the original hard drive and can be used just as if it's the original. The use of the 2nd hard drive poses no great inconveinece to the desktop but may requires more work on the laptop as the laptop does not normally provide access to allow 2nd hard drive connection. 

This approach may or may not be what you intended. If it's acceptable, the product "Hard Drive Upgrader, Personal Edition" (SFUPG) may be what you need. The target drive can be larger. In case of a system crash (with hard drive OK), you can reverse clone from the 2nd drive back to the original drive, or you can simply swap two drives. If the original drive becomes bad, you simply swap the drive and you're back to business.

For your info, below is the comparison of our two products:

The clone product (SFDPCR) is mainly for backup purpose. It duplicates the drive exactly (byte by byte, sector by sector, or an mirror image) without expanding any partition. Any extra space on the new drive
will be left unused. It works on all PC-based or non-PC-based partition types. For certain hard drive usage (embedded, proprietary, certain boot management software, etc), this may be the only way to copy the disk.

On the other hand, the Upgrader (SFUPG) is mostly used for one-time PC-based hard drive upgrade by utilizing the full space of the new drive. It will expand FAT16/32 type partitions but copy non-FAT partitions as is without expansion. It also allows FAT16 to FAT32 conversion. For FAT type partitions, it only copies those sectors that are actually used and is much faster than the clone product in most
cases. It still can be used as a backup, especially for Microsoft/PC-based OS without separate diagnostic/boot management partition.

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13Q:My source computer is a 120 Pent, target computer is a 100 Pent. Both with 16MbRam. Hard drives are slightly different in size. The source hard drive contains PC Dos and Windows 3.1. Do you think your Upgrade product or your Clone and Recover would be the best?


A:I think the Upgrader product would be the choice in your case. But since you're installing the new hard drive on another computer, please read the following caution.

The Upgrader copies not just the data but also system information (e.g., config.sys, autoexec.bat, driver files, INI files, etc) to the new hard drive. This system info stays the same on the original computer. Therefore, the Upgrader is normally intended for upgrading the hard drive on the SAME computer.

When you're installing the new hard drive on a different computer, the system info (from the original computer) on the new hard drive may or may not match the new computer. For example, your new computer may have a different video controller card, sound card, etc. This can cause the system not to boot up correctly especially with Win
dows 3.x. You probably have to manually edit the system files and/or uninstall/reinstall drives, etc to make it work more smoothly. I found the mismatch of the video/display driver to be most troublesome.

So my suggestion is, even though the Upgrader can truthfully copy the drive, you probably want to equip and configure your new system to be as identical as possible to your old system to minimize the initial tuning work. After the new hard drive works smoothly on the new system, then you can start to reconfigure the new system to suit your needs.


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14Q: Does your software hard drive Upgrader/ Clone-n-RecoverI(s)  work with USB/IDE external drive products? 

 

A. Yes, but our software (Upgrader & Clone-n-Recover) typically runs from a clean environment (i.e., DOS) without multitasking & locking, etc. This is to ensure the target drive is not out of sync with the source drive. On the other hand, our USB/IDE hard drive can only be recognized when running Win98. There is no DOS driver to recognize the USB/IDE hard drive. 

What we found is that if we boot up the system to Win98 and then run Upgrader or Clone-n-Recover from the Command prompt window, we can still copy the internal hard drive to the USB/IDE hard drive. We then shut down the Window (here, more files are updated on the internal drive but not reflected on the USB drive), install the USB hard drive as internal and reboot. It would complain about system not being shut down previously and SCANDISK is performed. But after that, it seems to work properly.

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15Q: Does your software copy linux system data? 

Unfortunately, there is no direct way to achieve the task with either of our products. However, with a little bit of work, you may be able to accomplish your goal to a larger degree in the following two ways:

1. Use Clone-n-Recover to mirror the drive. You keep thedual-boot ability. To claim the unused space at the end of the new drive, you use FDISK or any partitioning software to add one or more extra partitions. You then format them and use as extra space. A new drive letter may be involved in the case of Win9x/DOS.

2. Use Upgrader to copy and expand the drive. Keep in mind that only Win9x (FAT32) partition is enlarged, while the Linux partition stays the same. To restore the dual-boot capability, you need to perform the following (based on Red
Hat Linux):

A. Linux allows you to boot from a Linux boot diskette and continue onto the main hard drive. So first you need to create a bootable Linux diskette from your original system. See your installation manual for detail.

B. Boot from the diskette with the NEW hard drive in place (already cloned). At the boot: prompt, type something like "linux single root=/dev/hdXX initrd=" where XX in /dev/hdXX is your root partition.

C. Once you boot into your new hard drive, go to /sbin or wherever LILO (your dual-boot loader) is located. Simply run lilo which will re-establish your dual-boot capability.

D. Shutdown and reboot from the new hard drive.

This works for Red Hat Linux 5.2. Don't know about Corel
Linux. The trick is to be able somehow to boot up Linux with
lilo command available. Then run lilo to restore the dual
boot capability.

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16Q: I bought your Upgrader version 3.10 and don't know how to upgrade to a new HD, can you give me some instructions?

Thank you for your purchase. I assume you still can run your system on the old 3.2 GB drive with some space left, say 1MB or more. First, you need to make a bootable floppy if you don't have one yet. I suppose you can follow "My computer" -> "A: drive" -> format -> "copy system files"steps to make one.

Assuming you have our Upgrader download (310.exe) on this computer, find or create an empty folder (directory) and copy the download file (310.exe) to this folder and run it. It would unzip itself and create multiple installation files. Copy these files to the bootable floppy created above. Among the files are USER.DOC and USER.TXT which contains detailed instruction on how to use the Upgrader.
You might want to read the user's guide first before proceeding.

To summarize it, you need to have both hard drives installed and then reboot with the floppy. Run Upgrader.exe and follow the instruction on screen to copy the drive. Depending on your system's configuration, if you have two separate IDE
channels, you may be able to connect each hard drive via its own cable to its own channel without changing the jumper settings on the drives. If you have only one IDE channel, then both drives have to share the same channel on the same cable. The jumper settings would have to be arranged so that one drive is MASTER and the other SLAVE. You probably want to check with your PC and/or hard drive vendor for additional information.

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